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Ex-Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer: Amazon ‘not a great place to work’


In accordance to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, folks don’t actually like working at Amazon.

In a wide-ranging interview with Bloomberg TV, which coated every part from Ballmer’s investment in Twitter to his possession of the NBA’s Los Angeles Clippers, the 59-year-old had some harsh phrases in regards to the working situations at Amazon.

Throughout the interview, Bloomberg’s Stephanie Ruhle talked about the widely read New York Times article about Amazon’s “bruising office,” which quotes Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos from 2003 saying that “if Amazon grew to become like Microsoft we’d die.”

Ballmer responded by noting how Amazon is a place “that folks don’t need to work [at].”

“Anyone who ever left Microsoft [to Amazon] … we may depend on them coming again inside a yr or two as a result of it’s not a great place to work, to do modern stuff as an engineer,” he advised Bloomberg.

Amazon’s therapy of workers has change into a scorching matter within the tech world ever for the reason that Instances in August printed its story titled “Inside Amazon: Wrestling Massive Concepts in a Bruising Office.” The corporate has refuted many elements of the story, most not too long ago difficult the Instances in a Medium post written by Amazon exec Jay Carney that questions the reporting on a number of fronts.

Ballmer, in the meantime, famous right now that “Microsoft’s tradition may be very robust.”

“Onerous-driving, persons are actually targeted on altering the world,” he mentioned of Microsoft. “Folks work very laborious. I imagine the identical is true at Amazon. However you’ve received to bear in mind, there may be intense competitors between Microsoft and Amazon. Each AWS versus Microsoft Azure, however there’s additionally intense competitors simply within the metropolis of Seattle over expertise.”

microsoft12121Ballmer mentioned that “many, many individuals” begin at Microsoft, go work for Amazon, after which come again to Microsoft.

“At this stage I believe it’s in all probability honest to say you see motion between the 2 corporations,” he mentioned. “Keep in mind it’s not Silicon Valley the place all people’s shifting between each firm on a regular basis. In Seattle there’s actually some startups however largely the 2 huge tech employers, Microsoft and Amazon.”

This isn’t the primary time Ballmer has critiqued Amazon, as the ex-Microsoft CEO told Charlie Rose last year that Amazon was not a “actual enterprise.”

“They make no cash, Charlie,” Ballmer mentioned final yr. “In my world, you’re not a actual enterprise till you make some cash. I’ve a laborious time with companies that don’t generate profits in some unspecified time in the future.”

Nonetheless, Amazon on Thursday reported its second consecutive profitable quarter on revenues of $25.4 billion. It is also on a hiring spree, adding 39,000 employees in the last three months alone — and reaching an all-time excessive of 222,400 workers — because it continues to increase its enterprise into areas comparable to {hardware}, media, and cloud services. The corporate can also be boosting its spending on success facilities the place the corporate types, packs and distributes merchandise.

Ballmer additionally advised Bloomberg that Microsoft will give Apple “a good run for his or her cash.”

“No person else has actually tried to compete with them anymore actually critically in {hardware},” he mentioned. “I imply who’s actually going after the Mac? Who’s actually going after the iPad? You possibly can principally say Microsoft and Samsung. And Microsoft actually is the one one which’s received a software program and a {hardware} functionality. So if there’s going to be any competitors in any respect for Apple it’s going to come from Microsoft.”

Microsoft reported $21.66 billion in revenue and income of $5.38 billion on Thursday, beating analyst expectations. Its stock is up greater than 10 % right now; shares of Amazon are additionally up seven % right now.

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